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	<title>Comments on: Banshee not good enough; Gomer Pyle reacts</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Serban</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/14/banshee-not-good-enough-gomer-pyle-reacts/comment-page-1/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Serban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,
This is how I first saw it:
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1623/distrowatch.png
but it&#039;s probably a browser rendering issue.
I looked at it in Opera and you are correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
This is how I first saw it:<br />
<a href="http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1623/distrowatch.png" rel="nofollow">http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1623/distrowatch.png</a><br />
but it&#8217;s probably a browser rendering issue.<br />
I looked at it in Opera and you are correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Halse Rogers</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/14/banshee-not-good-enough-gomer-pyle-reacts/comment-page-1/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Halse Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#comment-body-140&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-140&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dan Serban&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
                  
...
On another note, have you checked the distrowatch page hit ranking lately?
&lt;a href=&quot;http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=4&lt;/a&gt;
At the time of writing, Ubuntu has 1596 hpd and going lower, Fedora has 1536 hpd and going up.
...
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Are we looking at the same &quot;Last 30 days&quot; page hit ranking?  Because mine displays Ubuntu at 1596 and going &lt;b&gt;up&lt;/b&gt; (at least, that&#039;s what I presume the green up arrow is meant to indicate) and Fedora at 1536 and going &lt;b&gt;down&lt;/b&gt; (similarly, that&#039;s what I take the red down arrow to indicate).</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-140" rel="nofollow">Dan Serban</a> :</strong></p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
On another note, have you checked the distrowatch page hit ranking lately?<br />
<a href="http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=4" rel="nofollow">http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=4</a><br />
At the time of writing, Ubuntu has 1596 hpd and going lower, Fedora has 1536 hpd and going up.<br />
&#8230;<br />
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<p>Are we looking at the same &#8220;Last 30 days&#8221; page hit ranking?  Because mine displays Ubuntu at 1596 and going <b>up</b> (at least, that&#8217;s what I presume the green up arrow is meant to indicate) and Fedora at 1536 and going <b>down</b> (similarly, that&#8217;s what I take the red down arrow to indicate).</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/14/banshee-not-good-enough-gomer-pyle-reacts/comment-page-1/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, 

Very interesting, Fedora moving up like that.

On media players, I have found - for my use - Rhythmbox is unbeatable. I&#039;ve tried a &lt;strong&gt;lot&lt;/strong&gt;, but only RB fits all my needs.

That&#039;s really the deviousness of targeting &quot;best-of-breed&quot; isn&#039;t it, though? Just decide that a web-browser, lyrics from the internet, BPM readout and goldfish in platform shoes are &quot;essential&quot; parts of the audio player, and Bam! Rhythmbox just doesn&#039;t measure up anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, </p>
<p>Very interesting, Fedora moving up like that.</p>
<p>On media players, I have found &#8211; for my use &#8211; Rhythmbox is unbeatable. I&#8217;ve tried a <strong>lot</strong>, but only RB fits all my needs.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s really the deviousness of targeting &#8220;best-of-breed&#8221; isn&#8217;t it, though? Just decide that a web-browser, lyrics from the internet, BPM readout and goldfish in platform shoes are &#8220;essential&#8221; parts of the audio player, and Bam! Rhythmbox just doesn&#8217;t measure up anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Serban</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/14/banshee-not-good-enough-gomer-pyle-reacts/comment-page-1/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Serban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a long time I didn&#039;t know what I was looking for in a music player, but now I do.
What I need are in fact 2 music players:
- one to associate sound files with for quick checking what&#039;s inside a podcast file; this one needs to load as fast as possible and my choice is Audacious;
- another one, the key feature of which is being capable of managing multiple playlists effectively; fast start-up isn&#039;t essential; my choice here is Exaile.
One other requirement I have is that the music player shouldn&#039;t establish any network connections by default. Exaile is bad enough in this department because I have to edit preferences and uncheck &quot;Submit to Last.fm&quot;
What&#039;s up with all this integration bloat? I don&#039;t care about getting album art from CDDB or submitting my listening preferences to a site that won&#039;t even allow me to listen to a radio station for free.
Let&#039;s go back to the underlying philosophy of UNIX, which is that all programs should be self-contained units of code that are built to do one thing only, and do it well.
My point is that a music player should stick to doing what its name implies: play music. The rest is unwanted bloat.

Now, to be fair, I haven&#039;t tested Banshee and don&#039;t know how well it does on the set of criteria mentioned above (start-up time, multiple playlists, respect for user&#039;s privacy, adherence to the &quot;keep-it-simple-and-modular&quot; principle).

On another note, have you checked the distrowatch page hit ranking lately?
http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=4
At the time of writing, Ubuntu has 1596 hpd and going lower, Fedora has 1536 hpd and going up.

I believe people are begining to realize that having an Ubuntu quasi-monoculture in the Linux world is almost as bad as having an OS quasi-monoculture in the general computing world.
Ubuntu does a great job of introducing people to a Linux distribution, but it also has a knack for dividing communities over certain issues (like the Mono-included-by-default and &quot;free-speech-zone&quot; issues).
Seriously, if you find you get along with Linux, leave Ubuntu behind, there is a whole world of (much nicer) Linux distributions out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a long time I didn&#8217;t know what I was looking for in a music player, but now I do.<br />
What I need are in fact 2 music players:<br />
- one to associate sound files with for quick checking what&#8217;s inside a podcast file; this one needs to load as fast as possible and my choice is Audacious;<br />
- another one, the key feature of which is being capable of managing multiple playlists effectively; fast start-up isn&#8217;t essential; my choice here is Exaile.<br />
One other requirement I have is that the music player shouldn&#8217;t establish any network connections by default. Exaile is bad enough in this department because I have to edit preferences and uncheck &#8220;Submit to Last.fm&#8221;<br />
What&#8217;s up with all this integration bloat? I don&#8217;t care about getting album art from CDDB or submitting my listening preferences to a site that won&#8217;t even allow me to listen to a radio station for free.<br />
Let&#8217;s go back to the underlying philosophy of UNIX, which is that all programs should be self-contained units of code that are built to do one thing only, and do it well.<br />
My point is that a music player should stick to doing what its name implies: play music. The rest is unwanted bloat.</p>
<p>Now, to be fair, I haven&#8217;t tested Banshee and don&#8217;t know how well it does on the set of criteria mentioned above (start-up time, multiple playlists, respect for user&#8217;s privacy, adherence to the &#8220;keep-it-simple-and-modular&#8221; principle).</p>
<p>On another note, have you checked the distrowatch page hit ranking lately?<br />
<a href="http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=4" rel="nofollow">http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=4</a><br />
At the time of writing, Ubuntu has 1596 hpd and going lower, Fedora has 1536 hpd and going up.</p>
<p>I believe people are begining to realize that having an Ubuntu quasi-monoculture in the Linux world is almost as bad as having an OS quasi-monoculture in the general computing world.<br />
Ubuntu does a great job of introducing people to a Linux distribution, but it also has a knack for dividing communities over certain issues (like the Mono-included-by-default and &#8220;free-speech-zone&#8221; issues).<br />
Seriously, if you find you get along with Linux, leave Ubuntu behind, there is a whole world of (much nicer) Linux distributions out there.</p>
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