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		<title>By: seller_liar</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/30/guest-post-a-modest-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-1038</link>
		<dc:creator>seller_liar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interesting thing is some mono people is porting sqlite to C#.A fspot uses sqlite !


Result: More dependency of mono in ubuntu because f-spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interesting thing is some mono people is porting sqlite to C#.A fspot uses sqlite !</p>
<p>Result: More dependency of mono in ubuntu because f-spot.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Shields</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/30/guest-post-a-modest-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-860</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#comment-body-858&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-858&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vexorian&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
                  
         
         
         Which is… free?
         &lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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Ask Jason, he&#039;s been my only patron so far. He paid for the i386 ISO</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-858" rel="nofollow">vexorian</a> :</strong></p>
<p>         Which is… free?<br />
         <a></a>
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<p>Ask Jason, he&#8217;s been my only patron so far. He paid for the i386 ISO</p>
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		<title>By: vexorian</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/30/guest-post-a-modest-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-859</link>
		<dc:creator>vexorian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevertheless, I think it is work for Jo Shields to do it and also seed it all the time. The remaining of the idea still shines though (2.) was desirable. If it is not &#039;someone&#039; from the pro-mono side  then &#039;someone&#039; else should still do it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevertheless, I think it is work for Jo Shields to do it and also seed it all the time. The remaining of the idea still shines though (2.) was desirable. If it is not &#8217;someone&#8217; from the pro-mono side  then &#8217;someone&#8217; else should still do it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: vexorian</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/30/guest-post-a-modest-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-858</link>
		<dc:creator>vexorian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which is... free?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is&#8230; free?</p>
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		<title>By: vexorian</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/30/guest-post-a-modest-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>vexorian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know. Are users only worried about their data? There is a moment where users just stop caring about learning and feel the entitlement not to learn again... Well, maybe I am crazy but I see this pattern everywhere. AKA, it is easy to migrate the db from itunes to most of its competitors, yet users still are wary to learn about the competitors.

Aw well, maybe you are right...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know. Are users only worried about their data? There is a moment where users just stop caring about learning and feel the entitlement not to learn again&#8230; Well, maybe I am crazy but I see this pattern everywhere. AKA, it is easy to migrate the db from itunes to most of its competitors, yet users still are wary to learn about the competitors.</p>
<p>Aw well, maybe you are right&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bambambox</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/30/guest-post-a-modest-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-856</link>
		<dc:creator>bambambox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good point. F-spot uses a simple sqlite database in users&#039; home folders AFAIK. It shouldn&#039;t be too difficult to at least implement an &lt;em&gt;import metadata from F-Spot&lt;/em&gt;-type feature. I have around ten thousand photographs, and I&#039;d hate to have to tag them twice. Users shouldn&#039;t have to put up with that sort of thing. I&#039;ll see what I can do about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good point. F-spot uses a simple sqlite database in users&#8217; home folders AFAIK. It shouldn&#8217;t be too difficult to at least implement an <em>import metadata from F-Spot</em>-type feature. I have around ten thousand photographs, and I&#8217;d hate to have to tag them twice. Users shouldn&#8217;t have to put up with that sort of thing. I&#8217;ll see what I can do about that.</p>
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		<title>By: A Mono proposal &#171; Rarrrrrrrgh</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/30/guest-post-a-modest-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>A Mono proposal &#171; Rarrrrrrrgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] amd64 architectures. There is talk of maintaining a regular Ubuntu edition sans Mono over on the Mono-Nono site. It&#8217;s a little unfair to expect Jo to do it all by himself, and it&#8217;s a good chance [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] amd64 architectures. There is talk of maintaining a regular Ubuntu edition sans Mono over on the Mono-Nono site. It&#8217;s a little unfair to expect Jo to do it all by himself, and it&#8217;s a good chance [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Shields</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/30/guest-post-a-modest-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-853</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#comment-body-852&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-852&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jason&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
                  
         
         
         A good point – while I don’t believe all the “best-of-breed” talk, I do think that all that talk could be realized. Chicken Little could be one positive way of providing a critique of the promotion of Mono.
It might give “up and coming” non-Mono apps a bit of a foothold too – because they wouldn’t have to “fight off” Mono contenders. 
Just kicking around thoughts.
         &lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
       &lt;/blockquote&gt;

All a non-Mono app needs to be suitable for proposal as a replacement is data migration. That&#039;s really it - the rest is just wrangling over feature sets. Gnote now has migration from Tomboy, which means someone could propose it at the next UDS (where the argument would be &quot;are there enough developers&quot;, &quot;do we want X missing feature&quot;, and so on). None of the photo managers can be presented as alternatives as they cannot replace F-Spot without throwing away all the user&#039;s valuable metadata at this moment in time.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-852" rel="nofollow">Jason</a> :</strong></p>
<p>         A good point – while I don’t believe all the “best-of-breed” talk, I do think that all that talk could be realized. Chicken Little could be one positive way of providing a critique of the promotion of Mono.<br />
It might give “up and coming” non-Mono apps a bit of a foothold too – because they wouldn’t have to “fight off” Mono contenders.<br />
Just kicking around thoughts.<br />
         <a></a>
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<p>All a non-Mono app needs to be suitable for proposal as a replacement is data migration. That&#8217;s really it &#8211; the rest is just wrangling over feature sets. Gnote now has migration from Tomboy, which means someone could propose it at the next UDS (where the argument would be &#8220;are there enough developers&#8221;, &#8220;do we want X missing feature&#8221;, and so on). None of the photo managers can be presented as alternatives as they cannot replace F-Spot without throwing away all the user&#8217;s valuable metadata at this moment in time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good point - while I don&#039;t believe all the &quot;best-of-breed&quot; talk, I do think that all that talk could be realized. Chicken Little could be one positive way of providing a critique of the promotion of Mono.

It might give &quot;up and coming&quot; non-Mono apps a bit of a foothold too - because they wouldn&#039;t have to &quot;fight off&quot; Mono contenders. 

Just kicking around thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good point &#8211; while I don&#8217;t believe all the &#8220;best-of-breed&#8221; talk, I do think that all that talk could be realized. Chicken Little could be one positive way of providing a critique of the promotion of Mono.</p>
<p>It might give &#8220;up and coming&#8221; non-Mono apps a bit of a foothold too &#8211; because they wouldn&#8217;t have to &#8220;fight off&#8221; Mono contenders. </p>
<p>Just kicking around thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: bambambox</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/07/30/guest-post-a-modest-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-851</link>
		<dc:creator>bambambox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s worth keeping an eye on the alternative applications coming up, particularly photo managers. There are a number of them in active development which all seem to have somewhat similar functionality to F-Stop. And, unlike Gnote, none of them appear to be direct clones. This is good, because it&#039;ll encourage more of that &lt;em&gt;best of breed&lt;/em&gt; stuff we hear so much about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worth keeping an eye on the alternative applications coming up, particularly photo managers. There are a number of them in active development which all seem to have somewhat similar functionality to F-Stop. And, unlike Gnote, none of them appear to be direct clones. This is good, because it&#8217;ll encourage more of that <em>best of breed</em> stuff we hear so much about.</p>
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