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		<title>By: zekopeko</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/08/07/its-ok-when-we-do-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1013</link>
		<dc:creator>zekopeko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#comment-body-1008&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1008&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vexorian&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
                  
         
         
        
To think there are no zealots or extremists among the pro-mono side is to be unrealistic.  The banshee case speaks for itself. An inferior app being pushed solely because of the framework it was written on. While making up rumors and attacking the one good music player we had.
       &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s a lie. The framework and language have nothing to do with it. If it wasn&#039;t for the Atk# bug Banshee would be ready to replace RB in Karmic.
I love it when people start talking how the &quot;pro-mono&quot; (actually I-don&#039;t-give-a-fuck-if-it-was-written-in-mono-and-use-what-you-like, but they never notice that) side are constantly shoving mono down their throat.
What we are shoving down your throat is a damn fine app IMO.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-1008" rel="nofollow">vexorian</a> :</strong></p>
<p>To think there are no zealots or extremists among the pro-mono side is to be unrealistic.  The banshee case speaks for itself. An inferior app being pushed solely because of the framework it was written on. While making up rumors and attacking the one good music player we had.
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<p>That&#8217;s a lie. The framework and language have nothing to do with it. If it wasn&#8217;t for the Atk# bug Banshee would be ready to replace RB in Karmic.<br />
I love it when people start talking how the &#8220;pro-mono&#8221; (actually I-don&#8217;t-give-a-fuck-if-it-was-written-in-mono-and-use-what-you-like, but they never notice that) side are constantly shoving mono down their throat.<br />
What we are shoving down your throat is a damn fine app IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: vexorian</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/08/07/its-ok-when-we-do-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1008</link>
		<dc:creator>vexorian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s what De Icaza thinks or wants to look like. However, there certainly was a good outcry and anti-gnote bashing when it  happened. Not from de Icaza. But there was, you should ask gnote&#039;s author about the hate mail he received.

You are the one trying to correlate mono opposition with bad reserch and innuendo, yet in your own post you seem to be using selective evidence yourself.

To think there are no zealots or extremists among the pro-mono side is to be unrealistic.  The banshee case speaks for itself. An inferior app being pushed solely because of the framework it was written on. While making up rumors and attacking the one good music player we had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s what De Icaza thinks or wants to look like. However, there certainly was a good outcry and anti-gnote bashing when it  happened. Not from de Icaza. But there was, you should ask gnote&#8217;s author about the hate mail he received.</p>
<p>You are the one trying to correlate mono opposition with bad reserch and innuendo, yet in your own post you seem to be using selective evidence yourself.</p>
<p>To think there are no zealots or extremists among the pro-mono side is to be unrealistic.  The banshee case speaks for itself. An inferior app being pushed solely because of the framework it was written on. While making up rumors and attacking the one good music player we had.</p>
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		<title>By: OkThen</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/08/07/its-ok-when-we-do-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1006</link>
		<dc:creator>OkThen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, you guys keep trying to make this about Mono vs no Mono.   I like the way you operate, 50% poor research, 50% innuendo.

Here is Miguel&#039;s take on GNote when Roy was trying to inflame the discussion a few months ago:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/6cec640b7c4dec6f</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, you guys keep trying to make this about Mono vs no Mono.   I like the way you operate, 50% poor research, 50% innuendo.</p>
<p>Here is Miguel&#8217;s take on GNote when Roy was trying to inflame the discussion a few months ago:</p>
<p><a href="http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/6cec640b7c4dec6f" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/6cec640b7c4dec6f</a></p>
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		<title>By: makomk</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/08/07/its-ok-when-we-do-it/comment-page-1/#comment-988</link>
		<dc:creator>makomk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. I noticed Miguel de Icaza seemed very keen on the idea of some sort of Mono-based rewrite of Sqlite using this code as a starting point.  (I happened to be reading #mono at the time for unrelated reasons.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. I noticed Miguel de Icaza seemed very keen on the idea of some sort of Mono-based rewrite of Sqlite using this code as a starting point.  (I happened to be reading #mono at the time for unrelated reasons.)</p>
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		<title>By: zekopeko</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/08/07/its-ok-when-we-do-it/comment-page-1/#comment-987</link>
		<dc:creator>zekopeko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to assume that your lack of essential reading skills and other important factors made you miss the &quot;licence&quot; in question: Public Domain.
And no, it&#039;s not OK to steal other people&#039;s work and claim it as yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to assume that your lack of essential reading skills and other important factors made you miss the &#8220;licence&#8221; in question: Public Domain.<br />
And no, it&#8217;s not OK to steal other people&#8217;s work and claim it as yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 04:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least they are not porting JavaDB. With all the automated tools to translate from java to c# that could have been easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least they are not porting JavaDB. With all the automated tools to translate from java to c# that could have been easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Plus Hub pointed out his motivation for porting Tomboy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Could you explain what you mean here? I don&#039;t want to get all worked up if I am misreading you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Plus Hub pointed out his motivation for porting Tomboy.</p></blockquote>
<p>Could you explain what you mean here? I don&#8217;t want to get all worked up if I am misreading you.</p>
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		<title>By: zekopeko</title>
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		<dc:creator>zekopeko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read my comment below. The code is apparently now under MIT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read my comment below. The code is apparently now under MIT.</p>
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		<title>By: bambox</title>
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		<dc:creator>bambox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have a look at this:

http://code.google.com/p/csharp-sqlite/wiki/VersionHistory

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;24-Jul-2009

Progress Report&lt;/strong&gt;
I am currently waiting for google to approve changing licensing terms from &quot;Artistic License/GPL&quot; to &quot;Public Domain&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Rather odd stuff. Perhaps he&#039;s heading towards public domain in stages. Start off with an EULA, then move to MS-PL through to GPL, shifting to BSD then MIT with perhaps a hint of Apache, and finally bam, public domain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a look at this:</p>
<p><a href="http://code.google.com/p/csharp-sqlite/wiki/VersionHistory" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/csharp-sqlite/wiki/VersionHistory</a></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>24-Jul-2009</p>
<p>Progress Report</strong><br />
I am currently waiting for google to approve changing licensing terms from &#8220;Artistic License/GPL&#8221; to &#8220;Public Domain&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>Rather odd stuff. Perhaps he&#8217;s heading towards public domain in stages. Start off with an EULA, then move to MS-PL through to GPL, shifting to BSD then MIT with perhaps a hint of Apache, and finally bam, public domain.</p>
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		<title>By: Karma Bot</title>
		<link>http://mono-nono.com/2009/08/07/its-ok-when-we-do-it/comment-page-1/#comment-980</link>
		<dc:creator>Karma Bot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so it&#039;s ok to steal other people&#039;s work and claim it as yours? &lt;a href=&quot;http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7071318&amp;postcount=34&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so it&#8217;s ok to steal other people&#8217;s work and claim it as yours? <a href="http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7071318&amp;postcount=34" rel="nofollow">link</a></p>
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