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		<title>Microsoft and Open Source: A case study</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was just reading an interesting post, Microsoft and Open Source, from an IronPython blog. It gives a nice look into &#8220;Open Source&#8221; at Microsoft.

IronPython is fully open source and was the first project to be released under Microsoft&#8217;s OSI approved Ms-PL (Microsoft Public License).
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Despite this the IronPython development process is shackled with some lawyer [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just reading an interesting post, <a href="http://ironpython-urls.blogspot.com/2009/06/microsoft-and-open-source.html ">Microsoft and Open Source</a>, from an IronPython blog. It gives a nice look into &#8220;Open Source&#8221; at Microsoft.</p>
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<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.codeplex.com/ironpython" target="_blank">IronPython</a> is fully open source and was the first project to be released under Microsoft&#8217;s <a href="http://www.opensource.org/" target="_blank">OSI </a>approved <a href="http://www.opensource.org/licenses/ms-pl.html" target="_blank">Ms-PL</a> (Microsoft Public License).</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>Despite this the IronPython development process is shackled with some lawyer imposed restrictions. Community members can&#8217;t contribute to the project, IronPython developers can&#8217;t look at the source code of Python itself and IronPython can&#8217;t submit code changes or fixes back to Python or its standard library. It is only recently that we have had public commit messages on checkins to the <a href="http://ironpython.codeplex.com/SourceControl/ListDownloadableCommits.aspx" target="_blank">public repository</a> and that the Python standard library has been included with IronPython. The team still aren&#8217;t able to <span style="FONT-STYLE: italic">modify</span> the standard library for better compatibility with IronPython though; neither do they publish the internal tests they use on IronPython.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, the IronProject is 100% &#8220;fullyopen source&#8221;, assuming your definition of open source is:</p>
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<li>The community can&#8217;t contribute to the project</li>
<li>The project can&#8217;t contribute to the community beyond the immediate project itself.</li>
<li>Project developers can not even <strong>look</strong> at related Free and Open Source code.</li>
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<p>What exactly is the purpose of using an Open Source license and calling yourself &#8220;Open Source&#8221;, if you use extra-license methods to prevent the <strong>very </strong>things that make Open Source work? Is it just PR, to be able to pretend to be open source-friendly?</p>
<p>Just release under a no-charge proprietary EULA; not this Neutered Source™ garbage.</p>
<p><strong>Let me be clear</strong></p>
<p>This is not an attack against the IronPython project or its developers. I&#8217;m sure they are all fine people with a fine project. It is just funny to me that some people want <strong>so bad</strong> to pretend Microsoft is something it is not.</p>
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